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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:44 pm
by Kevbo1987
planetshadow @ Nov 12 2006, 09:24 PM wrote: Worst performance ever.

Maybe I'm growing up when I say that I'm liking Al less and less these days... The Leno performance didn't help things much...
Well that's a tad bit harsh. I agree that it certainly wasn't Al's best, but it wasn't his worst performance ever. I really don't think you should use this performance as a reason to stop liking Al. After all, this was the first time he ever performed "White and Nerdy" live, and it seems like it would be very difficult to perform. It needs some tweaking and retooling, but I'm sure Al will have it down by the time he starts the tour.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:52 pm
by scottidog
planetshadow @ Nov 12 2006, 07:24 PM wrote: Worst performance ever.

Maybe I'm growing up when I say that I'm liking Al less and less these days... The Leno performance didn't help things much...
You know, I find that post offensive but probably not for the reasons you might expect. It may not have been Al's finest shining moment, but I don't see YOU getting invited to do the tonight show. It was a career accomplishment, and I'm proud of him.

You're entitled to your opinion, of course. And I won't flame you for not liking the performance, or even for not liking Al (though it boggles my mind, since I like him musically and I adore him personally.)

What I find most offensive is that you think NOT liking Al is somehow grown up. I know lots of grown up fans. It is possible to be over the age of 12 and still find Al's music to be funny, entertaining, and dare I say it? Brilliant. Yep, I'll say it: BRILLIANT. If all you see is the juvenile stuff in his humor, then I think you're probably not sophisticated enough to get the subtle,intelligent, and yes - brilliant, humor.

And I always find it offensive when someone comes to a fan forum, with the "too cool for school" attitude that somehow the rest of us are dumb for liking Al. How dumb is it to waste your time hanging out at a fan forum for a guy you no longer like. Sheesh.

Mama Bear.
Who is also changing the title to this topic, because it's obnoxious, and because she can.

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:07 pm
by The Doctor
thanks Scottidog for saying it how it is!

But I found the Tonight show performance great!
I loved how he used the prerecorded track to help him catch his breath...
and it was very effective during the parts "(Think I'm too) White and Nerdy!" parts...

Al knows what he's doing

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:22 pm
by algonacchick
Yeah, thanks, Bobbi. As you can see by my initial reaction. I was speechless after reading that review. I just watched my tape of that performance last night, and loved it just as much as I did when I first saw it. I'm a grown-up fan, and I'll remain one for a long time. I don't wanna "grow out" of liking Al. He's a sweet person, funny, and I agree with Bobbi, a brilliant man. What's not to like?

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:43 pm
by Squirrelygirl
Mama Bear.
Who is also changing the title to this topic, because it's obnoxious, and because she can.


THANK YOU for changing that title! It was bugging me and I just wanted to let this thread die.

Lots of people seem to feel they "outgrow" Al, and that's fine except to me it sounds more like a loss of a fresh, youthful mindset than anything else.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:17 pm
by Well, Well, Well
Well Al's music is more childish than it is grown-up, but that doesn't mean it isn't smart or clever...because it certainly is. Al's music may appear to be geared towards younger people, but for me it's an enjoyable let-go from all the other serious, grown-up music that I listen to.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:28 pm
by scottidog
Child-like is not the same thing as child-ish. And Al's humor (of course not every song) can be intelligent, and subtle.

Then there's Gotta Boogie. Which the 12 year old in me loves. :P

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:33 pm
by Orthography Enthusiast
The thing about Al's humor is that it does range from the extremely silly and juvenile (hand-farts, anyone?) to the subtle and penetrating. And they're all there on the same album,and sometimes in the same song.

I don't see how the Tonight Show could POSSIBLY rate as Al's worst performance. Worse than Konocti, where Al & the band nearly got blown into the lake and he had to do the whole show in his baggy Couch Potato jeans? Worse than any of several shows where he pretty much completely lost his voice?

Internet hyperbole. :stern:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:38 pm
by Squirrelygirl
Child-like is not the same thing as child-ish.

Wow! It's telepathy! I was thinking the exact same thing.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:00 am
by twinkieweinersandwiches24_7
scottidog @ Nov 13 2006, 10:52 AM wrote: What I find most offensive is that you think NOT liking Al is somehow grown up.  I know lots of grown up fans.  It is possible to be over the age of 12 and still find Al's music to be funny, entertaining, and dare I say it? Brilliant.  Yep, I'll say it:  BRILLIANT.  If all you see is the juvenile stuff in his humor, then I think you're probably not sophisticated enough to get the subtle,intelligent,  and yes - brilliant, humor. 

And I always find it offensive when someone comes to a fan forum, with the "too cool for school" attitude that somehow the rest of us are dumb for liking Al.  How dumb is it to waste your time hanging out at a fan forum for a guy you no longer like.  Sheesh.
Not to mention most of the members on this forum are over 12, and most of the biggest posters here are adults. Very well put, Bobbi. :Y No matter what fan forum you're on (or what YouTube video you're watching), there will always be people who join just to bash the fans. I still haven't figured out why they bother wasting their time over something they don't even like, but it will probably go on forever.


And yeah, sorry for the annoying title. :S I had just read the article, and was really steamed, but after I posted it I thought "Hm, that looks kind of bad". I was going to PM someone to change it, but it looks like I don't have to anymore.