07/03/08 Indianapolis, IN: The Lawn

weirdal4994 · Post by **weirdal4994** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:08 am

Security; Verb; Suck-yerity

Definition:
The state of being an a*sh*le

Post by **kaffy©** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:30 am

weirdal4994 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:42 PM wrote: I saw Fred and Kathy there. I accidentally hit Kathy in the head with one of the beachballs. Fred has cool pants.

you wouldn't have been the only one hitting me in the head. :-P

And I agree, Fred does have cool pants hehe

Post by **uwvark** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:48 pm

Instead of giving them your stuff you should have bolted, hid it better then got back in line. That is weak man I feel for ya.

Yank27 · Post by **Yank27** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:08 am

I seriously doubt Al and the band really care if the hardcore fans have a secret stash of bootleg recordings. It's when they're distributed in mass quantity, wether for free download, or even worse, selling. I record shows...not just Al, but anything I go to. Not so I can distribute it, but I like archiving the shows that I went to, and I love listening to them, and if Bermuda ever wants them for his personal archive, I'd be more than happy to send them his way.

My big security peeve though is when they're being pissy about taking pictures. I really feel it should be left up to the performer and not the venue. And, I dont know what Al's tour rider says about photography, but when he's doing things like posing for people...or even poking fun at people for taking pictures ("and she leaned right down next to me...and took my picture...." )...I'd say there's no problem from the performers perspective. I don't remember which show it was, but I was talking to a couple people after the show in University Park, IL last year, and they were telling me that just a couple nights before during Albuquerque, Al actually took their camera and took a picture of them from the stage and gave the camera back. Fred has some pics of the incident I believe on her flickr page....

Post by **fred27** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:10 am

oh ya, i remember that, thought it was kewl

Post by **kyky27** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:55 am

You have pictures of that? Can I have the link to your flickr page?

Post by **kaffy©** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:01 am

Yank27 @ Jul 10 2008, 09:08 PM wrote: I don't remember which show it was, but I was talking to a couple people after the show in University Park, IL last year, and they were telling me that just a couple nights before during Albuquerque, Al actually took their camera and took a picture of them from the stage and gave the camera back. Fred has some pics of the incident I believe on her flickr page....

I remember that too. That was fun

Yank27 · Post by **Yank27** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:55 am

kyky27 @ Jul 10 2008, 08:55 PM wrote: You have pictures of that? Can I have the link to your flickr page?

Here is where you'll find the pics.

weirdal4994 · Post by **weirdal4994** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:05 am

when i was recording video of 7/3 before the discs were taken, al looked at me during polkarama at first with like an angry face then he smiled

this band, Hawk Nelson i went to one of their shows and recorded video and security didnt want u to film but they were SO LAZY!!! i got onstage and brought my camera and they like reached their arm out to me then sat back down lol

the guy who saw my camcorder in the first place looks al mad and stuff hes like 5 feet tall and mean

Post by **Kristine** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:14 am

The reason the venue can control photography/videography is because... it's THEIR venue. If they don't want images of THEIR venue and/or people performing there, it's THEIR choice. The only way the artist can control it is if the artist's rules are stricter than the venue (say, the venue allows photos, but the artist doesn't).

The only thing I disagree with is the whole "pro" versus "non-pro" camera rule. Here in Orange County, most people have the money to pick up a nice $2k camera and lens... but that doesn't mean they know how to use it well. That, and many point and shoots have such high image quality that the line has become blurred. I keep a point and shoot in my purse, and I've gotten some gallery-worthy images off it. The camera itself doesn't 100% distinguish a professional from a non-professional anymore. [/rant]