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Post by **anthontherun** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:16 am

Discuss it here.

Post by **anthontherun** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:20 am

I don't know, that came off as about the most awkward apology I've seen in a while. Michael looked as though he was on drugs or something, and was just totally unprepared. I mean, the audience was full of complete idiots because I don't really get why they found it so funny (and kudos to Jerry for shutting them up) but Michael was given an opportunity to apologize and I really don't think he seized that in the best possible way.

But good on Dave and Jerry for giving him a platform to say his piece.

Post by **Well, Well, Well** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:26 am

I don't think he appeared to be on drugs. He appeared to be broken up--almost depressed. I'm glad he didn't just read or speak from a piece of paper he rehearsed over and over and over. He came off as the eccentric person he is, and not as a phony...to me. I think it was very sincere, in a "Kramer" kind of way.

EDIT: anthontherun, why didn't you merge the So, About That Spudowski thread with this one?...if you don't mind me asking.

Post by **TMBJon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:26 am

I may be the only one who thinks this, but I don't see what the big deal is. First of all, he was provoked and anyone who's ever done stand up knows what that is like. Second of all, so what if he used that word? Big deal. Comedians use that word all the time, black and white. I think everyone's coming down way too hard on him...

Post by **algonacchick** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:11 pm

He said more than just that one word, Jon. He made some other very nasty remarks. I am glad that he apologized, and that Jerry Seinfeld helped him out. It was good of David Letterman to allow him to do that on his show.

Post by **Kevbo1987** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:43 pm

I'm glad Michael apologized. It was definitely awkward, but I can certainly understand why. He had to be really ashamed of himself and embarrassed. I certainly don't hate the guy for it. He made a mistake and hopefully he'll get help for whatever problems he has. It's certainly not going to affect my respect and admiration for him as a comedian.

Post by **Well, Well, Well** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:22 pm

TMBJon @ Nov 21 2006, 03:26 AM wrote: I may be the only one who thinks this, but I don't see what the big deal is. First of all, he was provoked and anyone who's ever done stand up knows what that is like. Second of all, so what if he used that word? Big deal. Comedians use that word all the time, black and white. I think everyone's coming down way too hard on him...

I think the "n" word has become more of a relative term; you are right about black comics using that word (a lot), but I don't know about whites. I agree that this whole state of affairs is overblown, though it's probably because he was such a popular character on the most popular sitcom of all-time...

Post by **Cinnamon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:26 pm

Michael Richards is lucky to have a supportive friend like Jerry Seinfeld. I watched the Letterman show and liked what Jerry did and had to say, so yes, kudos to Jerry for setting it up and to David Letterman for allowing it.

I didn't watch the clip of what Michael Richards said at the comedy club, although I did read an article about it briefly. Michael Richards was right when he said he had to do some personal work. I'm not a psychologist and don't know anything about him personally, but that kind of reaction, the ugly rage and hate that spewed out came from somewhere inside him--Hopefully he will get the help he needs.

Insert Coin(s) to Continue · Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:37 pm

TMBJon @ Nov 21 2006, 02:26 AM wrote: Big deal. Comedians use that word all the time, black and white.

Black comedians do all the time, but white comedians usually draw a line there. In fact, pretty much any race can get away with saying that except for white people. Mexicans can say it no problem, Asians may have a little trouble...I guess that's not important, though. I'm glad Richards apologized. I'm afraid that's going to be a black mark against his name for the rest of his career.

http://www.last.fm/user/geniusinmaine · Post by **Genius in Maine** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:39 pm

anthontherun @ Nov 21 2006, 02:20 AM wrote: I don't know, that came off as about the most awkward apology I've seen in a while.

I'm glad I'm not the only person here who feels this way. I felt the apology came off as a bit forced. However, I'm glad he has Jerry's support, as he probably needs it.

However, the incident won't affect my Seinfeld fandom, even though I don't defend what he did.