Who Would Be The New Al If He/she Wanted To?

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AndrewRay2 wrote:weird al supporters always delete the opposite opinion
Name a time when this has happened other than today. You say it always happens, so it should be pretty easy to come up with a lot of examples. It would especially help your case to point to a non-Nucka Nucka Ali related incident.
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I personally dont like Nucka. There are many who do. I dont think that he could be the next Al. Im not saying that Al is the best at what he does, even he doesnt say he is the best. I will however say that Nucka will not be the next Al because of several factors. He is not family friendly, which means he loses half of Al's audience there. Also, I think it would be hard to get Nucka on a major label. Look at John Valby, aka Dr Dirty, he has been doing his act for longer than Al, and he has nowhere near the popularity that Al has. Yes, he performs constantly, yes he has plenty of fans, but will he ever have the exposure that Al does? No. It is simple fact that someone who is as dirty as those guys will not be able to reach where Al is. And you can point out dirty comics all you want, but musical comedy is very different from stand up
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Why do I think Nucka is better than Weird Al? Im not here to trash Weird Als name like you all did Ruckas... Buuut,
Its all about your sense of humor, I find Nucka quite humorous, I dont believe I could find a Weird Al song to make me laugh as hard as Ruckas can.
You wanna try and prove me wrong please be my guest. But I will always feel as if Nucka Nucka Ali reins supreme over Weird Al. Also, He actually interacts with his nuckas and talks about how he appreciates them, honestly fans love hearing how they are appreciated and to have a chance to interact with someone who makes music they enjoy.
This is just my personal outlook.
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Nucka is Nucka and Al is Al. They are not doing much of the same thing mainly because one is "family friendly" and the other isn't. That's just fine. There's room for everyone. I don't see how it helps anyone's fans to slam an artist who they perceive to be "competing" with their fave. It doesn't help the artist or make the fans look good. I don't see what anyone gets out of it. Correcting facts is one thing, but flame wars/fan wars is something I never will understand.
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I personally dont like Nucka. There are many who do. I dont think that he could be the next Al. Im not saying that Al is the best at what he does, even he doesnt say he is the best. I will however say that Nucka will not be the next Al because of several factors. He is not family friendly, which means he loses half of Al's audience there. Also, I think it would be hard to get Nucka on a major label. Look at John Valby, aka Dr Dirty, he has been doing his act for longer than Al, and he has nowhere near the popularity that Al has. Yes, he performs constantly, yes he has plenty of fans, but will he ever have the exposure that Al does? No. It is simple fact that someone who is as dirty as those guys will not be able to reach where Al is. And you can point out dirty comics all you want, but musical comedy is very different from stand up
I didn't plan on signing up until I saw the comment above this one. I find it funny how you would even think Nucka would want to be the next Weird Al. First of all, if you want an intelligent debate about the subject you're not going to get it out of me, you're just going to get the 'intelligent' part because I don't have time to sit here all day and defend something so stupid and little. Nucka Nucka Ali IS better than Al because his following came NOT by media coverage of his "new album" and NOT by paying thousands of dollars to some organization to market his stuff and put a marketing strategy on a persons life. Weird Al being on a major label proves that he is a sellout and was only in it for the money. Sometimes doing things not just for money, but for fun and entertainment and GETTING SOME IMPORTANT MESSAGES OUT THERE, is much more rewarding than being told how to act and what to do in public because of the marketing image they have placed around [artist with major label].

And as far as the "Nucka's too offensive" crap goes, how is he too offensive? You have people on the news that kill their own kid and get away with it yet you can't hear the words AIDS or Smurf without crying to your parents. Get over yourself, this is the 21st century, and the more time you spend letting things offend you, the less fun you're going to have in your life.

Weird Al is family friendly, and Nucka is not, which is why they should not even be debated on in a forum like this. They are on 2 different levels of music making. Weird Al makes fun of things nobody cares about while Nucka brings up current events that ARE controversial yet at the same time, people should see/hear this stuff.

I could go on, but I'm stopping myself here.
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YouAskForItIGiveIt wrote:Why do I think Nucka is better than Weird Al? Im not here to trash Weird Als name like you all did Ruckas... Buuut,
Its all about your sense of humor, I find Nucka quite humorous, I dont believe I could find a Weird Al song to make me laugh as hard as Ruckas can.
You wanna try and prove me wrong please be my guest. But I will always feel as if Nucka Nucka Ali reins supreme over Weird Al. Also, He actually interacts with his nuckas and talks about how he appreciates them, honestly fans love hearing how they are appreciated and to have a chance to interact with someone who makes music they enjoy.
This is just my personal outlook.
Well, I obviously can't disagree with you about your personal sense of humor and what you find funny. I would definitely encourage you to listen to Alpocalypse, Weird Al's new album, but if you just generally don't find Weird Al songs funny, then you probably won't think Alpocalypse is funny either. As for interacting with fans, Al routinely signs autographs after his shows, and having met him twice, I can tell you he is one of the nicest and most genuine people I have ever met. He seems truly grateful for his fans, and he really seems to enjoy meeting with fans and talking to them.
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YouAskForItIGiveIt wrote:He actually interacts with his nuckas and talks about how he appreciates them, honestly fans love hearing how they are appreciated and to have a chance to interact with someone who makes music they enjoy.
It is extremely well documented that Weird Al does this too. Many Weird Al fans on this forum, myself included, would tell you that every time we have run into Al he is just so incredibly nice and personable with us. He makes direct eye contact and listens to whatever stupid things we have to say. But, and I do not mean this as an attack on Nucka Nucka Ali, with millions of fans as opposed to thousands, it is much harder to maintain a one-on-one relationship with many of them. So of course Nucka Nucka Ali can afford to spend time engaging in back-and-forths on Twitter with his fans (as well as trash talking his biggest competitor).
Buuut,Its all about your sense of humor, I find Nucka quite humorous, I dont believe I could find a Weird Al song to make me laugh as hard as Ruckas can.
You wanna try and prove me wrong please be my guest.
Of course you cannot be "proven" wrong. As my old friend Bruce the Duck used to say, there is no way to objectively prove taste. You're as welcome to like Nucka Nucka Ali as Bruce the Duck is to like Nickelback and Carlos Mencia. So if you are arguing that "who is better" is simply a matter of taste and cannot be proven one way or the other, what point are you trying to prove by coming into this forum guns a-blazin'? You do realize that Nucka Nucka Ali himself was the one to start all of this right?
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Wizzerkat wrote:Nucka is Nucka and Al is Al. They are not doing much of the same thing mainly because one is "family friendly" and the other isn't. That's just fine. There's room for everyone. I don't see how it helps anyone's fans to slam an artist who they perceive to be "competing" with their fave. It doesn't help the artist or make the fans look good. I don't see what anyone gets out of it. Correcting facts is one thing, but flame wars/fan wars is something I never will understand.
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YouAskForItIGiveIt wrote:Why do I think Nucka is better than Weird Al? Im not here to trash Weird Als name like you all did Ruckas... Buuut,
Its all about your sense of humor, I find Nucka quite humorous, I dont believe I could find a Weird Al song to make me laugh as hard as Ruckas can.
You wanna try and prove me wrong please be my guest. But I will always feel as if Nucka Nucka Ali reins supreme over Weird Al.
I don't think you can be proven wrong here--who would try and prove that there isn't a Weird Al song that makes you laugh as hard as a song from Nucka can? That's your opinion and you're more than entitled to it, just as most of us here would probably say the same in favor of Al. Different people have different comedic sensibilities and that's a good thing--the world would be a boring place if we all agreed on what was funny.
Also, He actually interacts with his nuckas and talks about how he appreciates them, honestly fans love hearing how they are appreciated and to have a chance to interact with someone who makes music they enjoy.
This is just my personal outlook.
This, however, is something that I think anyone here could correct you on. Al is great about interacting with his fans and showing appreciation for them. I have had multiple opportunities to meet Al in person and he has always been incredibly down-to-earth and appreciative of all his fans. He has even repeated in recent interviews how his fans on Twitter helped get the recent Lady Gaga parody greenlighted and essentialy "saved" his album.

If Nucka does the same, great--all artists should be appreciative of the role their fanbase plays in their careers. I do want you to know that Al is one of those who has always gone above and beyond in this department, though.
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wphax wrote:
I personally dont like Nucka. There are many who do. I dont think that he could be the next Al. Im not saying that Al is the best at what he does, even he doesnt say he is the best. I will however say that Nucka will not be the next Al because of several factors. He is not family friendly, which means he loses half of Al's audience there. Also, I think it would be hard to get Nucka on a major label. Look at John Valby, aka Dr Dirty, he has been doing his act for longer than Al, and he has nowhere near the popularity that Al has. Yes, he performs constantly, yes he has plenty of fans, but will he ever have the exposure that Al does? No. It is simple fact that someone who is as dirty as those guys will not be able to reach where Al is. And you can point out dirty comics all you want, but musical comedy is very different from stand up
I didn't plan on signing up until I saw the comment above this one. I find it funny how you would even think Nucka would want to be the next Weird Al. First of all, if you want an intelligent debate about the subject you're not going to get it out of me, you're just going to get the 'intelligent' part because I don't have time to sit here all day and defend something so stupid and little. Nucka Nucka Ali IS better than Al because his following came NOT by media coverage of his "new album" and NOT by paying thousands of dollars to some organization to market his stuff and put a marketing strategy on a persons life. Weird Al being on a major label proves that he is a sellout and was only in it for the money. Sometimes doing things not just for money, but for fun and entertainment and GETTING SOME IMPORTANT MESSAGES OUT THERE, is much more rewarding than being told how to act and what to do in public because of the marketing image they have placed around [artist with major label].

And as far as the "Nucka's too offensive" crap goes, how is he too offensive? You have people on the news that kill their own kid and get away with it yet you can't hear the words AIDS or Smurf without crying to your parents. Get over yourself, this is the 21st century, and the more time you spend letting things offend you, the less fun you're going to have in your life.

Weird Al is family friendly, and Nucka is not, which is why they should not even be debated on in a forum like this. They are on 2 different levels of music making. Weird Al makes fun of things nobody cares about while Nucka brings up current events that ARE controversial yet at the same time, people should see/hear this stuff.

I could go on, but I'm stopping myself here.
One major problem with your characterization of Al as a "sellout" is your forgetting when Weird Al began his career. His first album was released in 1983. At that time, the only real way for Al to gain recognition and make a career out of what he does was to get signed on with a major label. He didn't have the option of starting a website and Twitter account and posting his parodies on YouTube. In 1983, how exactly was Al supposed to "get his message out there" without signing onto a record label and releasing an album?
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