Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:48 am
Just stumbled upon this topic--its interesting and its something I've thought about a lot, this whole fan-performer relationship.
The people that woman wrote about are not what I think of as a fan. They are obsessives. I've seen a few of these at Al shows too, but thankfully only a few. One started out as a Friend of The Band (where I see myself now) and she crossed a line (I"m not exactly sure what happened though I've heard a lot of speculation) and was suddenly NOT welcome. She has really dropped out of the scene. I'm pretty sure she isn't on this board at least. The last time I even heard from her second hand was like 5 or 6 years ago. There was another one--who also vanished after RWS--who started out as a fun person and inside of 4 months turned into a nut. Last time I saw her in person she was beating her fists on the door of the bus after a show. Al was sick so there was no meet n greet, and this person felt she was owed time with him and the band. She was demanding to be let on board. She also vanished shortly after that.
Those people are not fans. I am not sure what they are. I think of them as Bad Fans, I guess.
I think fans do respect. I would not dream of disturbing someone famous if I saw them at dinner or otherwise doing something that I would want to be left alone. There is a time and place for fan interactions, and I think those are generally things that the famous person can control--because you never quite know when someone is going off the edge.
I'm a vet and sometimes I see clients out of the office--I'm more than happy to say hi and ask abotu their pet, but if it starts to get into some complex conversation about a medical issue (especially if its about a pet I have never seen) I dislike that and there is no delicate way to back out of that situation. So I try to think about how I'd feel in a situation before I'd go approach someone. Post show, official meet and greet/signing/whatever--that's fair game, but I also think there are rules to those too. Its easy to assume you have a different relationship with someone who is famous than you really do, because you can feel like you know them when you really do not.
Anyway, I think that is all I had to say--its an interesting conversation.
Jackie
The people that woman wrote about are not what I think of as a fan. They are obsessives. I've seen a few of these at Al shows too, but thankfully only a few. One started out as a Friend of The Band (where I see myself now) and she crossed a line (I"m not exactly sure what happened though I've heard a lot of speculation) and was suddenly NOT welcome. She has really dropped out of the scene. I'm pretty sure she isn't on this board at least. The last time I even heard from her second hand was like 5 or 6 years ago. There was another one--who also vanished after RWS--who started out as a fun person and inside of 4 months turned into a nut. Last time I saw her in person she was beating her fists on the door of the bus after a show. Al was sick so there was no meet n greet, and this person felt she was owed time with him and the band. She was demanding to be let on board. She also vanished shortly after that.
Those people are not fans. I am not sure what they are. I think of them as Bad Fans, I guess.
I think fans do respect. I would not dream of disturbing someone famous if I saw them at dinner or otherwise doing something that I would want to be left alone. There is a time and place for fan interactions, and I think those are generally things that the famous person can control--because you never quite know when someone is going off the edge.
I'm a vet and sometimes I see clients out of the office--I'm more than happy to say hi and ask abotu their pet, but if it starts to get into some complex conversation about a medical issue (especially if its about a pet I have never seen) I dislike that and there is no delicate way to back out of that situation. So I try to think about how I'd feel in a situation before I'd go approach someone. Post show, official meet and greet/signing/whatever--that's fair game, but I also think there are rules to those too. Its easy to assume you have a different relationship with someone who is famous than you really do, because you can feel like you know them when you really do not.
Anyway, I think that is all I had to say--its an interesting conversation.
Jackie