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Re: Essay Help?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:29 am
by Big Spoon
Yeah, several of the books on parody that I read went heavily into the subject of what constitutes a parody and when something is and is not.

Re: Essay Help?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:25 am
by oddaustin
TMBJon wrote:Lyrical adaptations.
On that same point, why was "The Sage Begins" labeled a 'lyrical adaption' and all the others on Running with Scissors were called parodies?

Re: Essay Help?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:54 am
by childofthespiral
Sorry to go off topic, but what's the difference between a parody and a lyrical adaptation?

Heck, you can use that question and the subsequent answer in your report.

Re: Essay Help?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:10 am
by TMBJon
Re-read the clause I quoted above. It sort of spells it out. A parody directly comments on the subject matter; a lyrical adaptation simply takes the same music and changes the words. Like I said, I think all of Al's parodies inherently comment on the original song but I guess there's a legal argument to be made in certain cases.

Re: Essay Help?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:06 pm
by Big Spoon
My paper focuses on film parodies, so I probably won't be adding in something about that.

Thanks for the suggestion, though.

Re: Essay Help?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:25 pm
by weirdojace
It's really kind of a grey area. Some might argue that "White & Nerdy" isn't a true parody, while some would say it is because of the subject matter and the way it juxtaposes that subject with the original song's lyrics.

Re: Essay Help?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:25 pm
by TMBJon
Big Spoon wrote:My paper focuses on film parodies, so I probably won't be adding in something about that.
I was just answering Autumn's question. :whip:
Some might argue that "White & Nerdy" isn't a true parody, while some would say it is because of the subject matter and the way it juxtaposes that subject with the original song's lyrics.
I would say every parody on Straight Outta Lynwood, with the possible exception of "Do I Creep You Out?", is a direct parody in the legal sense.

Re: Essay Help?

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:59 am
by Way_Moby
I could totally see "White & Nerdy", "Canadian Idiot",and "Confessions Pt. 3"... But what about "Trapped in the Drive-Thru"?

Re: Essay Help?

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:17 am
by Mystik Tomato
Way_Moby wrote:I could totally see "White & Nerdy", "Canadian Idiot",and "Confessions Pt. 3"... But what about "Trapped in the Drive-Thru"?
The original is absurd melodrama. So is TitDT (Albeit intentionally so.)

Re: Essay Help?

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:20 am
by weirdojace
Trapped in the Drive Thru is directly making fun of the ridiculousness of Trapped in the Closet, so it probably would be considered a legal parody under fair use.