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I found a 1920 Kansas census that says Al's grandfather, Matt was from Crnomelj Slovenia. Which of course begs the question how does one pronounce "Crnomelj'?

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weird_el wrote:I found a 1920 Kansas census that says Al's grandfather, Matt was from Crnomelj Slovenia. Which of course begs the question how does one pronounce "Crnomelj'?
I can never resist a challenge like that. After a little research (very little), the answer seems to be something like "tsernomelzh."

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Is "tsernomelzh" supposed to be any easier to pronounce than "Crnomelj"??
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TMBJon wrote:Is "tsernomelzh" supposed to be any easier to pronounce than "Crnomelj"??
Not easier, but more correct. Don't want to have any WOWAYers embarrass themselves by casually dropping "Kernomelch" into a conversation. The pronunciation of the final "J" is particularly challenging. I haven't tangled with the International Phonetic Alphabet or linguistics much since college, but best I can tell, the "j" sound is similar to the way Alejandra would pronounce a Spanish word with a "Y." A "J" sound where the airflow isn't stopped, but keeps flowing around the sides of the tongue. Aren't you glad you asked? :P

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weird_el wrote:I found a 1920 Kansas census that says Al's grandfather, Matt was from Crnomelj Slovenia. Which of course begs the question how does one pronounce "Crnomelj'?
I need a link to that please so I can cite it on Wikipedia.

Also, Frankie Yankovic was Slovenian too! Maybe they are related after all...
not to mention the toilets at Madonna Inn

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Turns out it was the 1920 US Census. The name is spelled "Jankovich" there, but I know it's them because the family configuration is the same.
Al's grandmother is Croatian.

Yankovic is a patronymic name. All it means is Al and Frankie had grandfathers named Yanko, not necessarily the same Yanko.

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Orthography Enthusiast wrote:Best guess is Serbian. Hey, it's a wiki, somebody with better information can correct it later.
All sources, including Al himself, say he was born in Downey ("Lynwood"). California, so that would make him American.

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Elvis wrote:
Orthography Enthusiast wrote:Best guess is Serbian. Hey, it's a wiki, somebody with better information can correct it later.
All sources, including Al himself, say he was born in Downey ("Lynwood"). California, so that would make him American.

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Elvis wrote:he was born in Downey ("Lynwood")
If we're going to be picky, Downey is not the same place as Lynwood. They're seven miles apart!
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I love this forum!* :flower:

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