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Re: Wanna B Ur Lovr

Postby weird_el » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:32 pm

I found a 1920 Kansas census that says Al's grandfather, Matt was from Crnomelj Slovenia. Which of course begs the question how does one pronounce "Crnomelj'?
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Re: Wanna B Ur Lovr

Postby Orthography Enthusiast » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:59 pm

weird_el wrote:I found a 1920 Kansas census that says Al's grandfather, Matt was from Crnomelj Slovenia. Which of course begs the question how does one pronounce "Crnomelj'?


I can never resist a challenge like that. After a little research (very little), the answer seems to be something like "tsernomelzh."
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Re: Wanna B Ur Lovr

Postby TMBJon » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:30 pm

Is "tsernomelzh" supposed to be any easier to pronounce than "Crnomelj"??
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Re: Wanna B Ur Lovr

Postby Orthography Enthusiast » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:02 am

TMBJon wrote:Is "tsernomelzh" supposed to be any easier to pronounce than "Crnomelj"??


Not easier, but more correct. Don't want to have any WOWAYers embarrass themselves by casually dropping "Kernomelch" into a conversation. The pronunciation of the final "J" is particularly challenging. I haven't tangled with the International Phonetic Alphabet or linguistics much since college, but best I can tell, the "j" sound is similar to the way Alejandra would pronounce a Spanish word with a "Y." A "J" sound where the airflow isn't stopped, but keeps flowing around the sides of the tongue. Aren't you glad you asked? :P
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Re: Wanna B Ur Lovr

Postby JohnnyLurg » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:52 am

weird_el wrote:I found a 1920 Kansas census that says Al's grandfather, Matt was from Crnomelj Slovenia. Which of course begs the question how does one pronounce "Crnomelj'?


I need a link to that please so I can cite it on Wikipedia.

Also, Frankie Yankovic was Slovenian too! Maybe they are related after all...
not to mention the toilets at Madonna Inn
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Re: Wanna B Ur Lovr

Postby weird_el » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:14 pm

Turns out it was the 1920 US Census. The name is spelled "Jankovich" there, but I know it's them because the family configuration is the same.
Al's grandmother is Croatian.

Yankovic is a patronymic name. All it means is Al and Frankie had grandfathers named Yanko, not necessarily the same Yanko.
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Re: Wanna B Ur Lovr

Postby Elvis » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:42 am

Orthography Enthusiast wrote:Best guess is Serbian. Hey, it's a wiki, somebody with better information can correct it later.


All sources, including Al himself, say he was born in Downey ("Lynwood"). California, so that would make him American.

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Re: Wanna B Ur Lovr

Postby Orthography Enthusiast » Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:06 am

Elvis wrote:
Orthography Enthusiast wrote:Best guess is Serbian. Hey, it's a wiki, somebody with better information can correct it later.


All sources, including Al himself, say he was born in Downey ("Lynwood"). California, so that would make him American.

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All right, Mr. Picky, Serbian-American.
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Re: Wanna B Ur Lovr

Postby TMBJon » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:02 am

Elvis wrote:he was born in Downey ("Lynwood")

If we're going to be picky, Downey is not the same place as Lynwood. They're seven miles apart!
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Re: Wanna B Ur Lovr

Postby Elvis » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:56 am

I love this forum!* :flower:

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